討

See also: 讨
討 U+8A0E, 討
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-8A0E
← 訍
[U+8A0D]
CJK Unified Ideographs 訏 →
[U+8A0F]

Translingual

Stroke order
10 strokes

Han character

討 (Kangxi radical 149, 言+3, 10 strokes, cangjie input 卜口木戈 (YRDI), four-corner 04600, composition ⿰訁寸)

Derived characters

References

  • Kangxi Dictionary: page 1147, character 16
  • Dai Kanwa Jiten: character 35231
  • Dae Jaweon: page 1614, character 11
  • Hanyu Da Zidian (first edition): volume 6, page 3940, character 6
  • Unihan data for U+8A0E

Chinese

trad. 討
simp. 讨

Glyph origin

Historical forms of the character 討
Liushutong (compiled in Ming)
Transcribed ancient scripts

Phono-semantic compound (形聲/形声, OC *tʰuːʔ) : abbreviated phonetic 肘 (OC *tkuʔ) + semantic 言. Shuowen Jiezi interprets it as an ideogrammic compound (會意/会意) : 言 (“speech”) + 寸 (“hand”) – rectify.

Pronunciation



Rime
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
Initial (聲) 透 (6)
Final (韻) 豪 (89)
Tone (調) Rising (X)
Openness (開合) Open
Division (等) I
Fanqie 他浩切
Baxter thawX
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang
/tʰɑuX/
Pan
Wuyun
/tʰɑuX/
Shao
Rongfen
/tʰɑuX/
Edwin
Pulleyblank
/tʰawX/
Li
Rong
/tʰɑuX/
Wang
Li
/tʰɑuX/
Bernard
Karlgren
/tʰɑuX/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex
tǎo
Expected
Cantonese
Reflex
tou2
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin)
tǎo
Middle
Chinese
‹ thawX ›
Old
Chinese
/*[t]ʰˁuʔ/
English examine; denounce

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
No. 12374
Phonetic
component
討
Rime
group
幽
Rime
subdivision
1
Corresponding
MC rime
討
Old
Chinese
/*tʰuːʔ/
Notes 疑肘聲

Definitions

討

  1. to send armed forces to suppress
  2. to denounce; to condemn
  3. to examine; to discuss
    商討/商讨  ―  shāngtǎo  ―  to discuss
  4. to ask for; to beg
    討飯吃/讨饭吃  ―  tǎo fàn chī  ―  to beg for food
    討回公道/讨回公道  ―  tǎohuígōngdào  ―  to seek justice
    雞母扒糞掃,無事討事做。 [Eastern Min, trad.]
    鸡母扒粪扫,无事讨事做。 [Eastern Min, simp.]
    Giĕ-mō̤ bà bóng-só̤, mò̤-dâi tō̤-dâi có̤. / [kie⁵⁵⁻⁵³ mo³³ pa⁵³ puŋ²¹³⁻⁵³ (s-)nɔ²¹³ mo⁵³⁻²¹ (t-)lɑi²⁴² tʰo³³⁻⁵⁵ (t-)lɑi²⁴² t͡sɔ²¹³] [Bàng-uâ-cê / IPA]
    Have nothing else to do.
  5. to invite
    討人喜歡/讨人喜欢  ―  tǎo rén xǐhuān  ―  (please add an English translation of this usage example)
    討人厭/讨人厌  ―  tǎo rén yàn  ―  (please add an English translation of this usage example)
  6. to marry
  7. (Zhao'an Hakka) to want
  8. (Zhao'an Hakka) to be about to

Synonyms

Compounds

Japanese

Kanji

討

(grade 6 “Kyōiku” kanji)

  1. to chastise

Readings

Korean

Etymology

From Middle Chinese 討 (MC thawX).

Historical readings

Pronunciation

  • (to attack; to subjugate; etc.):
  • (to discuss; to debate; etc.):
    • (SK Standard/Seoul) IPA(key): [tʰo̞(ː)]
    • Phonetic hangul: [토(ː)]
      • Though still prescribed in Standard Korean, most speakers in both Koreas no longer distinguish vowel length.

Hanja

Wikisource 討 (eumhun 칠 토 (chil to))

  1. Hanja form? of 토 (“to attack; to destroy”).
  2. Hanja form? of 토 (“to subjugate; to subdue”).
  3. Hanja form? of 토 (“to discuss; to debate”).

Compounds

References

  • 국제퇴계학회 대구경북지부 (國際退溪學會 大邱慶北支部) (2007). Digital Hanja Dictionary, 전자사전/電子字典.

Vietnamese

Han character

討: Hán Nôm readings: thảo

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